Israelis MUST stop killing Palestinians at once!! ~ Ref Malaysiakini

I switched on my television and this news was reported in SkyNews. Total number of 315 Palestinians killed of which 51 is civilians, while 1 Israelis dead from a missile shot by Hamas. By the way, they reported Gerrard being held by Police due to assault first, followed by this ‘not-so-important-to-them’ news of the atrocities created by Israel.

SkyNews kept on talking about the one Israelis casualty instead of the 315 and increasing number of the death of innocent Palestinian in an attack which is intended to wipe out the whole Palestine territory from the world map.

This is a crime in broad day light, and yet UN is keeping mum, and the self proclaimed ‘World Police’ is doing nothing either.

Malaysia’s ex-Prime Minister, Tun Dr. Mahathir in his usual skeptical yet eye-opening article stressed on this modern day terrorism.

http://test.chedet.com/che_det/2008/12/terrorism.html

11. Not only were they defeated but Israel grabbed more Arab land. At each attempt to regain Palestinian land, Israel together with America and Britain seized more Arab land.

12. In the area of Palestine which the Israelis have not seized, Jewish settlements were set up. Roads were built on Arab land which the Arab Palestinians are not allowed to use. High walls are built to break up Arab villages, preventing the villagers from contacting their close relatives even.

13. In the meanwhile the world watched the expulsion of Arab Palestinian and their plight with little concern and less sympathy.

14. Against the powerful Israeli forces the Palestinians could do nothing. They have no guns or tanks or fighter planes. Angry and frustrated they tried guerrilla war. But this was to no avail.

I urge all readers to at least have some heart and demand this unlawful, disrespectful act of modern terrorism to STOP. And it must be stopped immediately and the leader of Israel must be brought to war criminal court.

I quote from George W. Bush..

” … I think War is a dangerous place…”, and yet he was the one responsible for the war in almost all middle east countries.

Thank God he is no more President of United States in days to come. Will Obama bring new Hope to the Palestinians? Did I hear more of “Yes he can” or “No he can’t”?

I strongly condemn the war, and urge all leaders in this world to urge Israel to stop this war by any means possible.

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12 responses to “Israelis MUST stop killing Palestinians at once!! ~ Ref Malaysiakini

  1. well, the hamas are the one that break the truce and attack with blast of rocket into israel territory. so who to be blamed? any other nation will take the same steps to ensure their sovereignity beeen uphold!

    I was a sympathiser of Palestine people, as before they are fighting in defended of their people from israel military, but since they been attacking non-combatants which in my book a terrorist act. (any force)

    Palestinean people should blamed the arab leader as they are the one that screw them over to the british in 1947 treaty, and again war in 1948,1963,1967 which the arab force ratio 10 to 1, still loss to israel and that is the reason why israel becoming paranoid and the expand of the border line.

  2. Palestinians have been oppressed and intimidated by Israeli forces in every single steps they take to school, work, market etc. Every single breath they take, they think about their houses that were destroyed without any reason. Their basic right to live as a free human being was taken away by the construction of the huge wall. Israelis are building a gigantic jail to imprison Palestinians while at the same time keep on oppressing and putting pressure on the poor, weak Palestine.

    I am no sympathizer of Palestine people, nor do I want to be seemed to support Israel’s heartless actions. I just an ordinary guy who wants peace and harmony, no blood bath.

    Now it is not about pointing fingers, looking for who to blame in previous war, I’m not interested in that. What i know is, in every tick of a second, another life is lost, another house is destroyed, children becomes orphan, Palestine land shrinks, and yet we are here doing nothing, what more condoning this act of war by Israel.

    Stalin, I understand you are trying to be fair to both parties. My question is, has Israel been fair to the Palestine? My words here are clear, unless if you are also being confused by propaganda spread by Murdoch and Co.

  3. stalin, kamu ini adalah pengkhianat bangsa dan tidak berkemanusian. saya harap kamu masuk NERAKA JAHANAM!!!!!

  4. first of all, i’m just going to ignore ‘sokong’ statement as it is his/her view is just invalid to my point of view!

    Has there peace before this? how many time does hamas break the treaty? who to be blamed? Is it far for the israel citizen to be threaten every single day by this so call religious radical? have you figures on the Israeli point of view, every bus, post office, restaurant, public place where a suicide bombers will blow it out? or will the rocket launch by hamas hit their home? I not here to say that what the soldier are correct in doing so, but from history we learn that war/confrontation could be ugly, Copenhagen bombing, Vietnam War, World War and so on.

    I dont think it fair to Palestine since it was the hamas that start it in the name of their freedom, same as last time Jordan, Syria, Egypt, and so on.

    I feels it was the Hamas fault since they know that they cant sustain regular army war against Israel army, so they then to scale their strategies to guerrilla warfare which as been shown it Afghanistan, Vietnam, Cyprus tend to be alot of non combatants casualty. they hide their supply line in houses, civilian facilities and operate from there like a human shields. Vietnam war had shown that vietcom did the same thing, is it morally right for someone to place another human life as a shield for military operation or personally force/ influence them into sacrifice them self in killing non-combatants. what kind of a cowardly act is that.

    I study military strategies and what they first teach is there always going to be non-combatants casualty, and you could only hope to minimize it. Sun Zhu said “It is better to kill one person to warn a thousand” If by the death of a person will save 999 life would you not do it?

    I admit, i dont like the hamas strategies or anyone that use human shields forcefully or voluntary. It just immoral and a cowardly act.

    Life is loss is apart of the evolution cycle, a organism will die to ensure the next organism to be stronger and able to compete for the next challenges.

    And I not been influence by propaganda from any pro-Israeli or Palestine. It just my observation and knowledge as a human being.

  5. well, the hamas are the one that break the truce and attack with blast of rocket into israel territory. so who to be blamed? any other nation will take the same steps to ensure their sovereignity beeen uphold!

    This is not true. It was Israel who broke the truce November 4 in an armed attack which killed 6 Palestinians. [source: http://www.greenleft.org.au/2008/775/39991%5D

    Also, Hamas has repeatedly proposed long term truces. [source: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/20081215_israels_crime_against_humanity/%5D

    Finally, I recommend watching this interview with former US president Jimmy Carter defending his book Palestine: Peace Not Apartheid.

  6. I have check your link. The news is vague as I cant find any supporting information from any of the reliable source. there is no reason for israel to break the truce after releasing war prisoner

    JERUSALEM (CNN) — Israel released 227 Palestinian prisoners Monday in a long-debated good-will gesture to the Palestinian Authority, the Israeli Foreign Ministry said.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/15/israel.palestinian.prisoners.release/index.html

    JERUSALEM (CNN) — Palestinian militants Wednesday fired a salvo of rockets from Gaza into southern Israel, with one landing in the parking lot of a supermarket in Sderot, the Israeli military said.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/12/17/israel.rocket.strikes/index.html

    and Israel feels that hamas doesn’t repect the key term of the truce

    GAZA CITY: ISRAEL has demanded international monitors as a key term of any truce with Gaza Strip militants, as its planes bombed the parliament building in Gaza City and its ships attacked coastline positions of the territory’s Islamic Hamas rulers.
    http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/monitors-in-gaza-or-no-truce-israel-demands/2009/01/01/1230681664487.html

    and the latest news support the accusation that hamas use non-combatants or have a military based operation within civilian houses
    Israeli raid kills Hamas leader

    Israel killed a top Hamas commander on Thursday in the biggest blow yet against the Islamist leadership as dozens more air strikes on Gaza took the death toll from the six-day blitz to more than 400.
    http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/israeli-raid-kills-hamas-leader/2009/01/02/1230681700162.html

    FYI, Jimmy Carter is a failure. although he won Nobel prize but I dont respect him at all. He did not serve in a war. he escape military services, he maybe the worst US president out of all. “

  7. I have check your link. The news is vague as I cant find any supporting information from any of the reliable source. there is no reason for israel to break the truce after releasing war prisoner

    It’s proof enough that this independent report was on November 15, waaaaay before CNN and other mainstream media started focusing on Gaza, and waaaaay before people started accusing Hamas for breaking the truce. Look at the date of the source again.

    http://www.greenleft.org.au/2008/775/39991

    there is no reason for israel to break the truce after releasing war prisoner

    Okay. You obviously don’t know Palestinian politics 101. Actually, you don’t need to know because the article spells it out: Israel freed prisoners to bolster support for the Palestinian Authority. The Palestinian Authority are the opposition to Hamas. Many analysts are saying that this recent attack is because Israel wants to replace Hamas with the PA and this freeing up of prisoners, of course, would be part and parcel of that.

    and the latest news support the accusation that hamas use non-combatants or have a military based operation within civilian houses
    Israeli raid kills Hamas leader

    It’s sad to see people swallow this bs. Anyways, this guys puts it bluntly:

    FYI, Jimmy Carter is a failure. although he won Nobel prize but I dont respect him at all. He did not serve in a war. he escape military services, he maybe the worst US president out of all. “

    Thanks for saying this. Really. Thanks. Now I know not to waste my time with you.

  8. Listen Omar, how much do you trust your source? firstly it not a mainstream media, so i doubt it independent and if you cant back up the claim from a mainstream media or any reputable organisation, i thing it a like try to prove quantum mechanics to the worlds with child fantasy.

    Did i not stated with ref on how hamas ”so call military tactics” and why do you feels it a bs when even hamas released a statement on his death and vows revenge? Do you thinks most of the mainstream media bias or make bs about it such as reuters,euronews,independent,smh, times, bbc etc. (and I dont really watch foxs news anyway)

    I suggest you dont try to look at only one source of information. there 3 side of truth, one side, the other side and the the facts which its a compromise of the two. The youtube video is a propaganda or the hamas side of the story/fact/event according to theirs interpretations. I dont reject or avoid the facts that civilian casualty on the palestinian side, but as it said it better to kills one they to kills a thousand and do you consent to such tactics of human shields.

    2nd I admit I’m not an expert in middle east politics or palestinian-israel politics but to me would it not be better for the elected authority to have control over their own declare stated (as Palestine is non a recognise nation/member of UN athough does have some indirect recognition) Does good faith jesture been consider as a bad thing? Do you feels one organisation eg Hamas have the entire support of palestinian people and not the elected official. I dont want to been drown to a hypothical discussion on whether the election is rig since I dont know and I dont have prove either way.

    Regards, Jimmy Carter, Nobel prize for peace is more of an popularity votes rather than scientific discovery that been based on facts. anyway Nobel prize for peace is rather ironic since Nobel make his fortune from the discovery of weapon grade dynamites and Mahatma Gandhi never won it even after been nominated 5 times. Does Jimmy Carter achievement in promoting peace outweight one of the greatest leader that promote peace and non violent as well as he not power hungry. What I read from the Mahatma biography, if he took the power after fail appeals to the Indian PM of the times of India-Pakistan break up, there will not be any Pakistan now, since he is well respected by Indian and Pakistanian. But he choose not to since, he feels that if he does it, he interfere with the democratics choose of his people.
    Bill Clinton did more to promoted peace in the middle east after a difficult international stated been left by G.W.Bush Sr. Although he made some mistake in his affair, i would stated without reservation that his international policy is one of the best come out of the white house compare to the others and miles a part from Jimmy Carter. He only been elected for one terms and loss to Reagan which from my point of views as a better president than him. I have nothing againt him personally as I rate him a good member of the international society but as a president he did not meet expectation. I am not comparing him with Lincoln but compare to his predeceesor and the person he replace, he does not have what it takes to govern one of the most powerful nation.

    And thanks for the comment “Thanks. Now I know not to waste my time with you”
    I also know what kind of a person you are. Nice discussion though.

  9. ReEdit

    Listen Omar, how much do you trust your source? firstly it not a mainstream media, so i doubt it independent and if you cant back up the claim from a mainstream media or any reputable organisation, i think it a like try to prove quantum mechanics to the world with child fantasy.

    Did i not stated with ref on how hamas ‘’so call military tactics” and why do you feels it a bs when even hamas released a statement on his death and vows revenge? Do you thinks most of the mainstream media bias or make bs about it such as reuters,euronews,independent,smh, times, bbc etc. (and I dont really watch foxs news anyway)

    I suggest you dont try to look at only one source of information. there 3 side of truth, one side, the other side and the the facts which its a compromise of the two. The youtube video is a propaganda or the hamas side of the story/fact/event according to theirs interpretations. I dont reject or avoid the facts that civilian casualty on the palestinian side, but as it said it better to kills one they to kills a thousand and do you consent to such tactics of human shields?

    2nd I admit I’m not an expert in middle east politics or palestinian-israel politics but to me would it not be better for the elected authority to have control over their own declare stated (as Palestine is non a recognise nation/member of UN athough does have some indirect recognition) Does good faith jesture been consider as a bad thing? Do you feels one organisation eg Hamas have the entire support of palestinian people and not the elected official. I dont want to been drown to a hypothical discussion on whether the election is rig since I dont know and I dont have prove either way.

    Regards, Jimmy Carter, Nobel prize for peace is more of an popularity votes rather than scientific discovery that been based on facts. anyway Nobel prize for peace is rather ironic since Nobel make his fortune from the discovery of weapon grade dynamites and Mahatma Gandhi never won it even after been nominated 5 times. Does Jimmy Carter achievement in promoting peace outweight one of the greatest leader that promote peace and non violent as well as he not power hungry. What I read from the Mahatma biography, if he took the power after fail appeals to the Indian PM of the times of India-Pakistan break up, there will not be any Pakistan now, since he is well respected by Indian and Pakistanian. But he choose not to since, he feels that if he does it, he interfere with the democratics choose of his people. (which more than I can say for Hamas)
    Bill Clinton did more to promoted peace in the middle east after a difficult international stated been left by G.W.Bush Sr. Although he made some mistake in his personal affair, i would stated without reservation that his international policy is one of the best come out of the white house compare to the others and miles a part from Jimmy Carter. He only been elected for one terms and loss to Reagan which from my point of views as a better president than him. I have nothing againt him personally as I rate him a good member of the international society but as a president he did not meet expectation. I am not comparing him with Lincoln (which is outrageous) but compare to his predeceesor and the person he replace, he does not have what it takes to govern one of the most powerful nation.

    And thanks for the comment “Thanks. Now I know not to waste my time with you”
    I also know what kind of a person you are. Nice discussion though.

  10. Listen Omar, how much do you trust your source? firstly it not a mainstream media, so i doubt it independent and if you cant back up the claim from a mainstream media or any reputable organisation, i think it a like try to prove quantum mechanics to the world with child fantasy.

    http://muslimmatters.org/2009/01/03/the-facts-about-israel%E2%80%99s-war-on-gaza/

  11. while we are debating this issue, Israel had started it’s ground invasion in Gaza, the Israel Army spoke person said this is going to be a ‘lengthy operation’. What concern me is, the more time Israel Army being given chance to be in Palestinian territory, many more civilians life will be taken away by them.

    Hamas replied, Palestinian land will become a ‘graveyard’ to Israeli Army. Oh God, please help my brother and sister in Palestine.

  12. Who started it? Hamas via a group been attacking Israeli settlement with rocket missile which is very rare for a small times group afford it. If you look at the statement

    JERUSALEM (Reuters) – A rocket fired from the Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip landed in southern Israel on Wednesday, causing no injuries or damage, Israel’s military said.

    There have been several rocket launches from the coastal territory since an Egyptian-brokered truce between Israel and Hamas went into effect on June 19, though such attacks tapered off in recent weeks.

    Israel responded to previous attacks by reclosing border crossings with the enclave.

    An Israeli military spokeswoman said the rocket struck just beyond Erez, a terminal on Gaza’s northern border with Israel.

    There was no immediate claim of responsibility from armed Palestinian factions in Gaza.

    The truce calls on Gazan militants to halt rocket attacks in return for Israel gradually easing an embargo on the territory. The Jewish state tightened its cordon on Gaza after Hamas Islamists took control of the territory a year ago.

    (Writing by Dan Williams; Editing by Richard Williams)

    http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL652876120080806

    It already considered an act of war. I can understood why israel launch a land operation as in military tactics, you need a buffer zone to avoid anymore rocket launch. But that military sense!

    Anyway let all pray that this conflict will end swiftly so that no more civilian casualty on both side. People should look at the consequences of war rather that who cause it first as It will only lead to another war. We human are to corrupted. Both side been spread word of haltered towards one another.

    This will be my last posting.

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